Ep 01 - Tea With George Podcast 1 Feb 04 2023

Summary

George Kaylor and his guests Diane Gruber and Professor Steve Putney introduce themselves on T with George, the podcast where they talk about what matters most.

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George is 79 years old and has a diverse background - he was raised on a small farm, taught high school English, toured and recorded with rock bands, and has worked as a financial planner and wealth manager for the past 50 years.

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Diane is a retired attorney from the Portland, Oregon area, and Professor Putney is an expert on the Constitution. Diane explains that shortly after she retired, the BLM riots began and the police were told to stand down, so she knew she couldn't protect her neighborhood with a shotgun.Steve moved to a beach house in Washington State to get away from the Democratic lies and false narratives. He then started writing for substack and agreed to come on George's show to fight back with facts and his own perspective.

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Steve grew up in the Midwest and did his undergraduate work in Illinois and his masters in Indiana before moving to Virginia and teaching at Liberty University. In his free time, Steve loves to read, something he wanted to do full time so he decided to become a teacher.The speaker and Steve discuss the implications of the classified papers found in Trump's Mar-a-Lago and Biden's home. The speaker notes the high tax burden faced by people today, and the fact that he loves to read books and carries one with him everywhere.

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Steve is asked for his opinion on the government's actions and implications, being chosen as one of the sharpest knives in the drawer. The conversation concludes with Steve beginning to discuss his thoughts on the matter.The conversation centered around the government's treatment of former President Trump and current President Biden in terms of their access to classified information. It was noted that the president can declassify what he wants to, whereas the Vice President cannot.

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It was also noted that over 800,000 people have some level of security clearance in the United States, making it difficult to police what information is being accessed. It was also mentioned that when President Trump was under investigation, he was treated horribly, with no courtesy of a heads up, and that President Biden is being treated with kid gloves.

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The conversation then moved to why President Trump was treated the way he was. It was suggested that it was due to his America first mentality and the fact that he made the United States energy independent, with a good economy and low inflation.

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Timestamps

0:00:08

Heading: Introduction to T with George: George Caylor, Diane Gruber, and Steve Putney

0:02:52

Conversation with Steve: Moving to Washington State and Writing for Substack

0:04:43

Conversation on Classified Papers Found in Trump and Biden's Homes

0:06:30

Heading: Discussion on Governmental Treatment of Donald Trump and Joe Biden

0:12:29

Heading: Analysis of the Impact of Economic Policies on the Middle Class

0:14:11

Heading: Discussion on the Ruling Elite's Disregard for the Population

0:16:07

Heading: Discussion on Life Insurance and Vaccines in Relation to Lowering Population

0:22:14

Discussion on Social Control and Solutions for Fighting Back

0:24:22

Heading: Discussion on the Erosion of Liberty in the United States with Diane Gruber and Professor Steve Putney

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Highlights

People have got to get involved. They have to educate themselves. They have to get off of the mainstream media, get their news from other sources, talk to people, find out what's really happening, and then get involved in some way in fighting back. That's one of the reasons I'm on your podcast. That's one of the even though I'm a baby boomer and I don't have children or grandchildren to worry about, I worry about where what's going to happen to our young people 20 years from now.

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Well, I think Steve is right. He's right. There's things that are going on that are zillion, things going on behind the scenes that we're never going to know about, they're never going to come clean and so forth. And there's all kinds of shenanigans going on. But yes, if you've ever listened to Catherine Austin Phipps, she claims that starting in 1998 is when the government started the process of trying to lower life expectancy, in part. And main reason was because they had already stolen all the Social Security money from the baby boomers.

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And I've read several cases where young kids are getting sick and dying after the vaccination. So this could be a problem. And I'm in the life insurance business, part of my financial planning business. I underwrite very large policies on people. We have an underwriting division for 100 million and more. So if a person wants to, say, $200 million of life insurance, see me not many of those around, but more than you might think.

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It'll financially collapse cause a financial collapse in the system. But there's another reason, I think, besides an economic factor, and I think that is a theological factor. These people are globalists, and what stands in their way of power is Christian faith. And if they can destroy America, they've destroyed Christian faith.

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I do. Not only do they want to push us into poverty, many of us they want to push into the grave. Most of them are, Eugenesis, and they want to eliminate a large portion of not just the population in the United States, but the population of the world.

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TRANSCRIPT

0:00:08

A

Hello. I'm George Kaylor, and this is T with George. Every week, we're going to talk about what matters most. This is our maiden podcast, so I believe introductions are in order. And I'll go first. I'm George Kaylor. I'm 79 years old, raised on a small family farm in Pennsylvania. I taught high school English, and then I toured and recorded as the bass player with rock bands. After I put my childhood away, I went back to school and got my financial degrees.

0:00:42

A

For the past 50 years, I've been a financial planner and a wealth manager. My hobbies are music, hunting and fishing and theoretical physics. I'm also a constitutional conservative and a Christian. I see history and current events through the lens of my faith. And today I have with me Diane Gruber, a retired attorney on the coast of Washington, somewhere along the Columbia River. There, I think, the mouth of the Columbia River.

0:01:12

A

Also with me is Professor Steve Putney, a history professor and an expert on the Constitution. And because this is our first podcast, I'm going to have the guys arm that I think you're going to be on regularly. So let's get to know who you are. Diane, would you tell us a little bit about yourself?

0:01:33

B

Well, I recently retired from practicing law in the Portland, Oregon area for 34 years. Literally, within a few weeks of when I retired, the Democrats sent the domestic terrorists to our neighborhood. I lived in a very nice I guess they would call it upscale suburb. And by the time the BLM riots came to our neighborhood, the police were so afraid to do anything, or the city council, they were told to stand down.

0:02:09

B

And I figured out, well, there's no way that I can operate a shotgun. So that was it. We moved. We moved to our beach house in Washington State, where there's no riots, and, well, the Democrats don't control it here yet, so there's virtually no crime. And I used to write for some blogs, and I got to thinking, my brother in law said, you need to start writing for substac. And by the time he made that question, I was so up to my eyeballs in all of the lying, constant lies and false narratives coming from the Democrats and so forth.

0:02:52

B

I just couldn't tolerate it. And so that's the reason I started writing, because I wanted facts to get out. And that's the reason I've agreed to come on your show, George. The only way we can fight normal people with facts and our perspective, the only way we can fight back because the left owns the media, is to do what you're doing. And so that's why I'm here today.

0:03:21

A

We're glad you are here. What a background you have. We're going to get to know you a little bit better over the weeks and years, and you've been a writer. Now you're going to be a talker. Well, Steve, tell us about yourself a little bit here. Yes.

0:03:36

C

Thanks, George. I grew up in Indiana. I'm from the Midwest. I did my undergraduate work in Illinois, then moved back to Indiana after I got married and did my masters at Ball State University in Muncie, Indiana, then moved back to Illinois. I couldn't decide which state I wanted to be in and went to the University of Illinois for my doctoral work and have moved south of the border, if you will, into Virginia and taught at Liberty University.

0:04:13

C

In terms of hobbies, I love to read. I used to tell people that's one reason I wanted to teach. It was the only way I knew I could be a full time student and get paid for it. I think of what Erasmus said one time. He said, when I have money, I buy books. If I have any left over, I buy food. Well, it's a little broader than that. He didn't have to pay income tax and all other kinds of taxes that we're burdened with today.

0:04:43

C

So I guess a large portion of what you and I and everyone else earns goes for taxes. But if I have any left over, I buy some books. I love to read. That would be my best hobby. I carry a book with me nearly every place I go, even the bathroom, if I can say that.

0:05:02

A

No, I read all the time, too. And even when I'm at the urinal, I'm reading something because why waste that 15 seconds on something you don't need to think about? And here's 12 seconds from today's. Sponsor certified Social Security advisors don't make your most important decision without professional advice. Certified Ssa.com. Today I want to discuss the classified papers that they found in Trump's mirror lago. I don't think it was hard to find them since he told where they were and he showed the FBI where they were, and then they raided his home and they even looked in Mrs. Trump's underwear drawer for stuff.

0:05:50

A

I'm not sure how she felt about that, but I hope they got the jollies from it. And then they started finding things in Biden's home, his garage, a lot of other places. Probably he had some bathroom reading, too. That was classified papers. But I'm going to start with Steve here. What is your take on what the government's trying to do and the implications? There's no wrong answers here because you've heard about the sharpest knives in the drawer. You're on here because I chose you because you're the sharpest knives in the drawer. So tell us what you're thinking, Steve.

0:06:30

C

Well, it's interesting the way you worded the question there. What is the government doing here? I don't know if you're suggesting or intimating or conjecturing that maybe the government planted some of those documents. I don't know. But, you know, you think about classified information, and I'm not sure how many of our listeners are aware there are over 800,000 people that have some level of security clearance in the United States.

0:06:59

A

I used to have security clearance.

0:07:03

C

You did?

0:07:04

A

Yeah, when we lived in Germany.

0:07:06

C

Interesting. Well, that's about one in every 400 Americans. And there's no way that anyone can police what those 800,000 people are doing with respect to what access of information they have. Remember the story of Sandy Burger who.

0:07:26

B

Walked out and his underpants?

0:07:29

C

That's right. And I think he stuffed some in his socks as well. I hope that was all sanitized before it was returned to Nara. Is that the way you pronounce the agency? The acronym national Archives Record Administration. Is it Nara? Nara. I'm not sure how they pronounce it.

0:07:50

B

I never pronounced nara.

0:07:51

C

Nara. Is that it?

0:07:54

B

I think so.

0:07:56

C

Well, I've had to wonder. Not with respect to Donald Trump. I don't think you can really compare the two. I mean, because the president, he can declassify what he wants to declassify. A vice president cannot. And the documents that Biden has that access to are not from the time he's been the chief executive, but the time when he was vice president. Can we compare what Trump has and what Biden has? I mean, it's not apples and apples, it's apples and oranges here.

0:08:33

C

Anyway, that's an initial comment. I'll defer to my colleague on the West Coast, too.

0:08:41

A

Okay, she's on the west coast, but not on the left coast. Not where she is. Diane, talk to us about your feelings on all this.

0:08:52

B

Well, for starters, there is no way, shape or form that Biden will be treated as horrendously as Trump was. I mean, the way they treated Trump. Over 15 boxes that were in Mar, Lago. That the FBI had already pawed through a month or two earlier, that had 24/7 Secret Service men with guns, you couldn't get much more secure than those 15 boxes. There's no way anybody was going to get in there and read or take whatever the documents were.

0:09:31

B

And yet, look at the way he was treated. Wasn't even given the courtesy of a heads up. And then, of course, biden. I mean, they're just treating him with kid gloves. There's no way Biden will not get in trouble. DOJ and whoever else is handling the investigations, they're not going to touch him. They're not going to touch him. We already know that. It's all facade that they're going through, and they just yesterday, right after I published my article, they just yesterday what? Over what has it been, three months now? Four months now.

0:10:05

B

For the first time, they went to his beach house in Rojoba Beach. The first time he was there two weeks ago. Probably shredding the documents. I'm being facetious here, but how come they didn't send the SWAT team immediately to all of his offices and homes and so forth? No, of course not. And his attorneys were allowed in there, too, with all the searches. His attorneys were accompanying the FBI, whereas Trump's attorneys had to stand outside in the 110 degree heat in Florida in August while the FBI went through the Mara Lago Risk. So there's no comparison.

0:10:47

B

You can't even begin to compare. It's so obvious. The partisanship is so painfully obvious. It's so wrong. It's so wrong. And Americans take note of this. They know it. They know it.

0:11:00

A

Diane, you alluded to something there that I've had the feeling ever since Trump walked down the staircase to announce his presidency. Why are they doing this? I mean, my family is in the energy business. Taylor Energy Resources. And Obama shut down our coal fields, and then Mr. Biden shut down our gas wells. I'm already a bit sensitive about his energy policies because it affects me personally. And we were selling everything for about one third the price that America are now paying.

0:11:44

A

Trump was so good for America. He made us energy independent. The economy was good. Inflation was low. Why are they doing this to him? Diane, you go first on that one.

0:11:55

B

It's painfully obvious because he has the America first mentality and the first time since the Clinton well, maybe I should say the first time since the Reagan administration. The economy was coming back up, people's wages were going up, and so on and so forth. He stopped the slide. They're trying to destroy the middle class. And the middle class has been you've got the stats. It's easy to check. The middle class has been dying little by little.

0:12:29

B

Every administration after Reagan, they have had policies that have diminished the middle class, less home ownership, lower wages, et cetera, et cetera, ever since well, he stopped that. And so I feel it really wasn't so much that they hated Trump as they hate Americans, and they don't want Americans to be independent. And the middle class is the middle class says what's the word? Has a lot of confidence.

0:12:58

B

If we don't have to beg for our food, we have a little bit more confidence and we want our freedoms intact. And he gave some of that back to us. He gave us an attitude about, wait a minute here. We're Americans and we should not be treated the way we've been treated. NAFTA was the beginning of destroying the middle class. Officially, that was the beginning, in my opinion.

0:13:22

A

Diane, Diane, let me just ask you something. What you just said sounds almost preposterous. Aren't these Americans doing this? Why would Americans make war on Americans?

0:13:38

B

It's the ruling elite. It's the mandarin overlords. See, they think they will be the head of the what's the word? Once the rest they're making peons and they're making surfs out of the rest of us because the ruling Lalit thinks that they'll always be in charge, whether it's the Nancy Pelosi's or the Obamas or whoever, and then the next step down the Mandarin overlords that do all the dirty work for the ruling elite. They think they'll always be in charge.

0:14:11

B

So they don't really care about the rest of us, even their own relatives, their own neighbors, friends, whatever their kids or grandkids and stuff. They don't care if we are pushed into poverty as long as they're calling all the shots.

0:14:27

A

Steve, do you feel the same way as Diane does about the ruling elite?

0:14:31

C

I do. Not only do they want to push us into poverty, many of us they want to push into the grave. Most of them are, Eugenesis, and they want to eliminate a large portion of not just the population in the United States, but the population of the world.

0:14:47

A

Are there too many of us? What's the problem?

0:14:50

C

They think there is. They think there's too many of us.

0:14:55

A

How are they going to decide? Who? Do we limit it? I'm afraid that it might be the three of us.

0:15:02

B

Well, it is. They want to get rid of the baby boomers. Absolutely anybody over 60 is the target at this point.

0:15:12

C

That's fine, no problem. But look how many people in the prime of life are suddenly dying. Whether that's from the vax or from COVID I'm not sure. But it's not just those over 60 they want to eliminate. They want to eliminate as many of us as possible. Now, one reason I think, George, they want to eliminate Americans. There's an economic component there, as Diane points out. You know, Social Security system cannot carry the weight as the baby boomers are retiring.

0:15:46

C

It'll financially collapse cause a financial collapse in the system. But there's another reason, I think, besides an economic factor, and I think that is a theological factor. These people are globalists, and what stands in their way of power is Christian faith. And if they can destroy America, they've destroyed Christian faith.

0:16:07

A

It's always been a thorn in their side, hasn't it?

0:16:10

C

It certainly has.

0:16:12

A

I was in a group discussion the other day with some actuaries with insurance companies. What they do, they look at age, family background, your job, your hobbies and stuff, and they determine how long you're going to live. And the accuracy on a grand scale is really unbelievable. They can determine just about to the hour when you're going to die. And of course, they don't know if it's you or somebody else. But because they look at, let's say, 100,000 people with the same situation, how many of them are going to die the first year and the second year and so on. What they discovered was younger people, 25 to 50 are suddenly dying.

0:16:56

A

And they found something in common. They've been vaccinated. And now they're talking about what do we do about underwriting that is writing life insurance on people who have been vaccinated? What are our risks in doing so? And how much more do we charge them? Should we write them at all? Are they going to be able to get life insurance at all? Now this I'm not even sure what's going to happen there because kids who have a zero chance of dying from COVID are getting vaccinated.

0:17:32

A

And I've read several cases where young kids are getting sick and dying after the vaccination. So this could be a problem. And I'm in the life insurance business, part of my financial planning business. I underwrite very large policies on people. We have an underwriting division for 100 million and more. So if a person wants to, say, $200 million of life insurance, see me not many of those around, but more than you might think.

0:18:03

A

So what are we going to do in the insurance industry with vaccinated people? And you're saying or are you saying am I putting words in your mouth, Steve, that this might be part of the global population trying to get it lower?

0:18:22

C

I don't see any other explanation. I think that is right. I think they are using this as a bioweapon to eliminate as many people as possible and deceiving us or deceiving the American population, maybe the world population in the process.

0:18:41

A

And I can see my podcast getting canceled by everybody for us bringing that up. Diane, what's your take? Is it as severe as Steve's?

0:18:53

B

Well, I think Steve is right. He's right. There's things that are going on that are zillion, things going on behind the scenes that we're never going to know about, they're never going to come clean and so forth. And there's all kinds of shenanigans going on. But yes, if you've ever listened to Catherine Austin Phipps, she claims that starting in 1998 is when the government started the process of trying to lower life expectancy, in part. And main reason was because they had already stolen all the Social Security money from the baby boomers.

0:19:44

B

I'm not saying I completely accept what she said, but she's done the stats and everything. I think that's part of what's going on. But I think it's a much broader scheme overall than just trying to deal with getting rid of a bunch of Americans. And then today, I don't know if you've heard about this, this just blows my mind. Since we're talking about vaccines, they are now in the process of making a fentanyl vaccine.

0:20:16

B

Yes. I said Fentanyl. Okay, so here we have Biden intentionally inviting the drug cartels to bring fentanyl in here to poison our young people. And at the same time, Big Pharma, with the help of the Biden administration, is developing a vaccine against fentanyl. Have we ever had a vaccine against something that wasn't a disease? You know what I'm saying? It's like, what a fentanyl vaccine?

0:20:51

A

You know? Diane that's scary. A friend of mine just fentanyl vaccine?

0:20:56

B

Yes.

0:20:57

A

A friend of mine lost his son about a month ago to fentanyl. Just tragic. Steve, you were just talking about that lady that was talking about lowering population, catherine Austin Fitz.

0:21:16

C

Well, I was watching a presentation she gave in the Netherlands sometime in 2022. I'm not sure just what month it was. And she was talking about digital currency and how that is another means of controlling people. All your monetary how shall we say this? All of your financial assets are digitized, and they can observe, watch what you spend your money on, and they can control what you spend your money on, and they can control where you spend that money.

0:21:57

C

As she said in the video or said in her presentation, they may not allow you to spend money on certain items that are more than 5 miles from your house where you live. It's all about control.

0:22:14

B

Oh, yeah.

0:22:16

A

My daughter lived in retirement for a couple of years, and they have over there something called the social credits. And if you lose your social credits, that is, by doing something like the three of us are doing right now. You can't even get on a train, let alone get a job. You can't go into a supermarket. It's sort of like the mark of the beast. You'll not be allowed to buy or sell if you have the mark of the beast. And it sounds like the social credit thing. Do you bow to Big Brother, or are we going to fight this?

0:22:51

A

Well, we're about to wrap this up today, and, Diane, you're really great today at giving us your very studied and educated opinions on this, but I like to leave on something of hope. Do you have any solutions for what's going on?

0:23:18

B

People have got to get involved. They have to educate themselves. They have to get off of the mainstream media, get their news from other sources, talk to people, find out what's really happening, and then get involved in some way in fighting back. That's one of the reasons I'm on your podcast. That's one of the even though I'm a baby boomer and I don't have children or grandchildren to worry about, I worry about where what's going to happen to our young people 20 years from now.

0:23:52

B

I mean, who knows? So that's one of the reasons I started my newsletter with substance, by the way. Little advertising here, please, called America First Reignited. America first reignited. So check it out, everybody. I've been writing since July, and I appreciate your comments.

0:24:14

A

If you want to comment on an article, Americafirstreignited.com right. Okay.

0:24:22

B

Well, it'd be on substate.

0:24:30

A

Do you have any words of hope or what can we do?

0:24:35

C

I think what Diane says is right. People have to be informed of what's happening. The story of the frog, you put him in the pan of boiling water, and he jumps right out. That's not what is happening to us. But you put him in water, the same temperature as the pond and slowly heat it up, and you cook him, and that's what's been going on in the United States for at least a century. We go back to the Progressive Era, but there are things that we can do.

0:25:10

C

Catherine Fitz mentioned one just yesterday. She didn't mention it yesterday, but I just listened to it yesterday, and that is in terms of digital currency and the elites trying to control us by controlling how we spend our money. Everybody uses cash one day a week. That puts a monkey wrench in what they're trying to do. Use paper dollars. Don't use a credit card or a debit card, but make it a paper transaction.

0:25:44

C

More than that, I think that the answer really lies in people being willing to do what's necessary to preserve liberty for the next generation.

0:25:59

A

I think that's going to bring us to a whole other topic and which we'll be discussing in the future. Everybody who's heard the podcast today, I appreciate your listening in. I really appreciate Diane Gruber and Professor Steve Putney joining me today. You're going to be regulars as long as you allow me to be your host. And I'll take a line from the movie Taken. As Liam Neeson said, I have special skills and I will find you and I will interview you.

0:26:38

A

So.

0:26:41

B

That'S a good one.

0:26:43

A

God bless you, the radio listening audience, and God bless you, Steve and Diane, everybody have a great day.

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